My Rosetta application keeps sending a scheduler request every hour and i can't stop it

 
ID: 21559
Posts: 12

Hello,
 I am attached to Rosetta more than 1 year.
 Since I have 7 other BOINC applications running I have not regularly switched on the option for new work. At the moment it is set to 'Stopped by user, no more new tasks'.
 Befor I connected Rosetta to Grid Republic I had an option to detach from the project for some weeks without giving up my account.
 This is no more possible after connecting to GridRepublic.org. The option for detach is just blanked out.
 What could I do to stop my application from sending scheduler requests ? On GridRepublic there is no option.
 
 I use Windows XP Pro SR3 and BOINC Manager 6.2.19, German version.
 Please give me a hint.
 YS
 Jochen
ID: 21503
Posts: 326

i'm not sure if i understand you.  but let me try --

When you are using gridrepublic to manage your accounts, certain controls in the desktop application are disabled.  the idea is that these functions are to be controlled via the gridrepublic user interface.  so, for instance, you cannot remove projects at the desktop application if you are using gridrepublic: the idea is to remove them via the website.

however, there are certain things you can do in the desktop application to "override" the web settings on an individual computer.  for instance you can "suspend" a project (advanced view, under the "projects" tab).  i think this will have the effect you seek.

please let me know if i am misunderstanding you; or let me know if this does or does not solve your problem. 

ID: 21559
Posts: 12

Hello, thanks for the fast reply.

I tried the option 'Anhalten' in the German BOINC version, and of course 'Keine neuen Aufgaben zulassen'. This did not solve the problem. The only solution would be that I cancel this project totally and then I would loose my credits earnde up to now.

 Look at here:

 25.01.2009 17:54:05|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by account manager.  Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
25.01.2009 17:54:11|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
25.01.2009 18:54:04||Contacting account manager at http://www.gridrepublic.org/
25.01.2009 18:54:06||Account manager contact succeeded
25.01.2009 18:54:09|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by account manager.  Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
25.01.2009 18:54:14|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
25.01.2009 19:54:06||Contacting account manager at http://www.gridrepublic.org/
25.01.2009 19:54:09||Account manager contact succeeded
25.01.2009 19:54:11|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by account manager.  Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
25.01.2009 19:54:17|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

Why does the account manager ask the sceduler every hou and what can I do to stop it ? Its only annoyingh, not an important inconvenience.

 YS

Jochen 

ID: 2821
Posts: 50

Matt, do you know of some reason the scheduler would continue to check with the project even if you don't want any more tasks? I'm guessing there is some purpose to it, but I agree with Joachim that it is strange.

I'd guess the only thing we could do on our end is add some sort of "Stop" option to projects as an alternative to "Remove".

ID: 21503
Posts: 326

Well it is by design that the desktop app contacts the gridrepublic website at regular intervals (hourly, i think).  this is how the desktop app learns of any changes to the user's list of projects or preferences.  this is a security feature: neither the GR website nor projects can ever contact the user's computer: the user's computer must always intiate communications.

having said that, i'm not sure why each contact with GR initiates a scheduler request with the project.  this may be a peculiar result which happens only when there is no work at the desktop for a listed project.  and it may simply be that rosetta is out of work for machines of your description.  

ID: 21559
Posts: 12

I set my options for Rosetta now to accept new work and I got 1 new workunit for 17hours CPU time. Lets have a look what happens after this WU is crunched.

I would prefer an option of Grid Republic to set a project in a detached state without loosing the already evaluated bonus points.

 Thanks for help

Jochen 

ID: 21503
Posts: 326

i'm pretty sure that if you "remove" a project at the GR website, your credits will be preserved: they will still be shown in your account at GR and at the project website and at most 3rd party stats sites.  

if you later re-add the project via the GR website, your continued contributions will be credited to your original account, ie, your totals will continue from where you left off.  (unless you change your email address in between).  

ID: 21503
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note: World Community Grid is a special case -- if you remove WCG and then add it again later, all will work as described above so long as you do not change your name in between.  (ie, "remove and re-add" of other projects will work as long as email is unchanged; "remove and re-add" of WCG will work as long as your name is unchanged).
ID: 40050
Posts: 4

Matt, I have the same annoying problem with Einstein@home as Joachim has with Rosetta.  As for your suggestions concerning the reasons this happens is concerned:

"having said that, i'm not sure why each contact with GR initiates a scheduler   request with the project.  this may be a peculiar result which happens only when there is no work at the desktop for a listed project.  and it may simply be that rosetta is out of work for machines of your description.

the answers are no and no.  It would be nice and much appreciated if you would eliminate this unnecesary idiosyncracy from your software.

Steve

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